The conversation delves into the emotional complexities involved in selling a business, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's desires post-sale and the dynamics between buyers and sellers. It highlights why wealth management is uniquely relationship-driven, how to structure firms for continuity (solo, silo, ensemble), what makes a practice “sellable,” and why doing the involuntary/continuity plan first protects families and preserves value.
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00:00 — Welcome & Framing
Pete sets the mission of The Confident Exit Podcast: real-world lessons from experts who help owners plan and execute exits.
01:00 — Guest intro: Bob Federici
Legal + wealth management background; general counsel at Hudson Wealth Management; long-time advisor continuity/succession work; history with Cetera Advisory Council.
01:58 — Why stories matter
Bob’s favorite outcomes: early planners who thoughtfully bring children into the business—with real business discipline behind the handoff.
03:36 — Partners in love (at the beginning)
Set terms early while everyone’s optimistic: timing, valuation mechanics, and “what ifs.” Contingency planning is essential.
04:51 — Post-close roles & stickiness
Why a seller’s defined role (employee/consultant) for 12–24 months is often critical; what to do if a seller leaves early.
07:17 — Wealth management is hyper-relational
Why this category is more relationship-centric than most professional services; 2008 anecdote of clients checking on their advisor.
08:35 — One-roof value
Legal + planning + advisory under one roof eases decisions for clients with finite time/money and interlocking needs.
10:19 — Why the work is rewarding
Designing foundations from scratch, collaborating with local counsel, aligning decisions to long-term goals.
12:31 — Biggest challenges
Letting go is emotional; owners postpone with the “rolling 3–5 years.” Start by running a real business (P&L, ops, people).
14:11 — Who owns the client?
Solo vs. silo vs. ensemble: decide whether clients belong to reps or to the firm. Bob’s firm evolved from “co-op” to true company.
15:27 — Ensembles rising
Ensemble structures (firm-owned clients) support continuity, reduce client disruption, and make transitions “stickier.”
17:14 — Maximizing value before exit
Tighten foundational documents, processes, and team; buyers prefer stable/growing firms with transferable systems.
19:15 — Growth paths: hire vs. acquire
Acquisitions require culture fit, infrastructure, right-sizing, and realistic financing; start with deals you can operationalize.
20:14 — Process beats personality
Document onboarding for clients and staff; create repeatable experiences driven by team (not a single rainmaker).
21:44 — Referrals & feelings
Most growth comes from referrals; how you make clients feel is a decisive differentiator.
23:57 — Make continuity the “now” project
Do the involuntary plan first (death/disability): name a successor, define price mechanics/retention adjustments, preserve value for family.
25:05 — Keep flexibility
Continuity agreements can (and should) be revisited; include termination/change provisions and, optionally, ROFR for the successor.
27:08 — Bad-case example & the cost of delay
A seller dies pre-close → price/terms shift; having a drafted continuity/purchase framework protects value.
29:18 — Wills analogy
Like a will: get it done, file it away, update as you grow. Without it, assets (and clients) can scatter during family distress.
31:31 — Broker-dealer resources
Home-office continuity programs can help, but choosing your own successor typically yields the best client-fit.
33:29 — Practical tip for solos & spouses
Non-licensed spouses often must scramble without plans. A basic continuity document spares them at the worst time.
35:10 — Quick-hit playbook
Run a business (P&L, SOPs), decide your model (solo/silo/ensemble), draft continuity now, acquire thoughtfully, measure culture fit.
36:37 — Personal quick hits
Light personal notes; Pete wraps to contact details.
37:50 — How to reach Bob
Email: rfederici@hudsonwm.com
Office: 732-747-1900
Mobile: 917-560-1761
38:55 — Close & disclosures
Pete’s sign-off and full regulatory disclosure.
• People often underestimate how emotional selling a business is.
• Be crystal clear on what you want after the sale (role, pace, legacy).
• In today’s market, there are more buyers than sellers.
• Staying involved post-sale (e.g., as an independent consultant) can smooth transitions.
• Emotional readiness is essential to letting go.
• Focus early on the human/relationship side of the transition.
• Consultants/advisors can maintain client relationships post-close to aid retention.
• Navigating a sale requires emotional intelligence, not just deal mechanics.
• Cashing out and staying involved aren’t mutually exclusive.
• Build a firm that is a business (P&L, processes, people) — not just a book.
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• “What an emotional process this is.”
• “What do you want to happen after the sale?”
• “There’s certainly more a glut of buyers than sellers.”
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• Robert “Bob” Federici
o Email: rfederici@hudsonwm.com
o Office: 732-747-1900
o Mobile: 917-560-1761
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The views depicted in this material are for information purposes only and are not necessarily those of Cetera Advisors LLC. They should not be considered specific advice or recommendations for any individual. Neither Cetera Advisors LLC nor any of its representatives may give legal or tax advice. Pete Bush is a registered representative offering securities and advisory services through Cetera Advisors LLC, member FINRA/SIPC, a broker-dealer and registered investment adviser. Cetera is under separate ownership from any other named entity. The guest on this episode, Robert Federici of Hudson Wealth Management, is a registered representative offering securities and advisory services through Cetera Advisors LLC, member FINRA/SIPC, a broker-dealer and registered investment adviser. Cetera is under separate ownership than any other named entity.
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